. >> as you know, in europe, this is a very live issue at the european level, moose to have-- moves to have quotas of women at the board room level. i take it from what you are saying you are against quotas of that sort. >> quotas are really an uncomfortable thing for americans. you europeans are more comfortable. [laughter] we want equality of opportunity rather than quality of results. that being said, i was on a fortune 500 corporate board fortune 500 corporate board pretty early in my career